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​​​​​​​What did we talk about? Everything. Bad date stories, but told in a humorous and charming manner. Stories about inappropriate reactions to bad date stories. Religion. How smart kids are. A whole bunch about my childhood and lots about his. More on dating. Made sure to be quiet and when I was, he talked. Some political ranting. He declined to diss GWB because he didn't want to ruin my night. So, mostly agreeing and seeing eye to eye on some pretty serious stuff. Him trying to sort out the complicated timeline of my dating life (don't worry, I didn't really tell him too much--some passing references to vip-ex, Stupid Greg, Jake). No meta at all, thank goodness. Just great, straight ahead conversing. Well, maybe there is some meta when in your second conversation with a guy who you like, but you haven't met (!), you make it clear that you want your kids to be Jewish, and it's stated (by him) that such things tend to work out. And it's mentioned that while he was raised Catholic, he's not all that religious but is glad that his parents raised him with religion. And he volunteers that he thinks kids are smart and intuitive and figure out how to get what they need no matter what. So, maybe a little, but nice and subtle--the way the meta should be, baby! (Actually, this is a totally different kind of meta--the right kind, the establishing kind.) And, I don't even want to tell you how long we were on the phone. (Over two hours.) I mean, I can do two hours standing on my head, but there were not even any noises about how long it was or how late it was getting. (I made one such noise and it was ignored.) It ended when he got another call--at 12:30. He used it as his exit, confirmed our plans (yes, plans!) and I said, "You have people calling you at this time of night?" He said, "I have a sister in California who thinks I'm a night owl [wonder why?] even though I'm not, really." I chuckled and we got off the phone.
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